Thank you for this post ... it annoys me endlessly when people assume there is some stable relationship between gold and $SPX. Rather, the chart shows that they vary in relation to each other (and one would say that about any two non-identical variables).
ShortBusTrader
· 1 month ago
Using the ratio between gold and $SPX, you are not necessarily showing a stable relationship, but rather showing the value of the companies in the index as valued by a stable currency. This would be the same as measuring the $SPX inflation adjusted, except when you adjust for inflation using CPI you do not get the real value of inflation.
So by using gold (which in theory is a stable currency) you can see your real returns.
Michael F. Martin
· 2 months ago
Nice post.
moiselevi
· 1 month ago
Great point. I also find that the Russian index is "linked" to oil, try $rtsi:$wtic. The Dollar and Gold of course ; $Gold:$USD
ShortBusTrader
· 1 month ago
There are two things missing here. First is that commodity cycles are very long (20 years or more), so looking at the charts in this case with anything less than 40 years would make no sense in trying to see the relationships. Second there can be no denying that there is a strong relationship between the price of commodities (such as oil) and the economy, so measuring the profitability of companies in the index and measuring the costs of doing business and comparing them does make sense.
To compare them using a ratio as was done, might not make sense, but measuring the commodities relative performance versus the profitability of the index does. Certainly, the relationships in this case can only be shown over the very very long term, so anything less than 60 years makes no sense.
Bob Brill
· 1 month ago
appreciate your debunking of correlations. chartists i watch intentionally unclutter charts, isolate tickers, and note context of corresponding sectors.
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So by using gold (which in theory is a stable currency) you can see your real returns.
I also find that the Russian index is "linked" to oil, try $rtsi:$wtic.
The Dollar and Gold of course ; $Gold:$USD
To compare them using a ratio as was done, might not make sense, but measuring the commodities relative performance versus the profitability of the index does. Certainly, the relationships in this case can only be shown over the very very long term, so anything less than 60 years makes no sense.